I really find the goalpost moving is shocking..

Paypal is in no way a Musk creation, no one makes that claim and in fact they got rid of him quite quickly.

X has plummeted in value, and is worth a fraction of what he paid for it? How is this "pulling it off" by shrinking the user base, revenue, etc? While we don't have publicly audited figures, they announced a net loss for the first three quarters of 2025, while it posted profits prior to his purchase.

FSD isn't even real? Why would you cite a feature that doesn't actually exist as an example of "Elon pulling it off"? He promised FSD would be available over a decade ago, and it's still not real.

> How many examples does it take before people start taking the guy seriously?

I'd personally settle for real examples, and not the false ones cited above.