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hennelltoday at 9:30 AM0 repliesview on HN

It depends what you're doing not really what you do it with.

I can do some crud apps where it's just data input to data store to output with little shaping needed. Or I can do apps where there's lots of filters, actions and logic to happen based on what's inputted that require some thought to ensure actually solve the problem it's proposed for.

"Shaping the clay" isn't about the clay, it's about the shaping. If you have to make a ball of clay and also have to make a bridge of Lego a 175kg human can stand on, you'll learn more about Lego and building it than you will about clay.

Get someone to give you a Lego instruction sheet and you'll learn far less, because you're not shaping anymore.