alt Hacker NewsThe sandbox-or-not debate is important but it's only half the picture. Even a perfectly sandboxed agent can still generate code with vulnerabilities that get deployed to production - SQL injection, path traversal, hardcoded secrets, overly permissive package imports.
The execution sandbox stops the agent from breaking out during development, but the real risk is what gets shipped downstream. Seeing more tools now that scan the generated code itself, not just contain the execution environment.
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Precisely! There's a fundamental tension: 1. Agents need to interact with the outside world to be useful 2. Interacting with the outside world is dangerous
Sandboxes provide a "default-deny policy" which is the right starting point. But, current tools lack the right primitives to make fine grained data-access and data policy a reality.
Object-capabilities provide the primitive for fine-grained access. IFC (information flow control) for dataflow.
> not just contain the execution environment.
See, my typical execution environment is a Linux vm or laptop, with a wide variety of SSH and AWS keys configured and ready to be stolen (even if they are temporary, it's enough to infiltrate prod, or do some sneaky lateral movement attack). On the other hand, typical application execution environment is an IAM user/role with strictly scoped permissions.
I find that a bit of a weird point.
The goal of such sandboxing is that you can allow the agent to freely write/execute/test code during development, so that it can propose a solution/commit without the human having to approve every dangerous step ("write a Python file, then execute it" is already a dangerous step). As the post says: "To safely run a coding agent without review".
You would then review the code, and use it if it's good. Turning many small reviews where you need to be around and babysit every step into a single review at the end.
What you seem to be asking for (shipping the generated code to production without review) is a completely different goal and probably a bad idea.
If there really were a tool that can "scan the generated code" so reliably that it is safe to ship without human review, then that could just be part of the tool that generates the code in the first place so that no code scanning would be necessary. Sandboxing wouldn't be necessary either then. So then sandboxing wouldn't be "half the picture"; it would be unnecessary entirely, and your statement simplifies to "if we could auto-generate perfect code, we wouldn't need any of this".