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SoftTalkeryesterday at 3:52 PM3 repliesview on HN

It does mean that. You can't be forced to divulge information in your head, as that would be testimonial. But if there are papers, records, or other evidentiary materials that are e.g. locked in a safe you can be compelled to open it with a warrant, and refusal would be contempt.


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Steltekyesterday at 4:08 PM

They need to prove that those materials exist on the device first. You can't be held in contempt for a fishing expedition.

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lostloginyesterday at 4:09 PM

FaceID and TouchID aren’t protected by that as I understand it.

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parineumyesterday at 4:06 PM

I know it seems like an incredibly dubious claim but the "I forgot" defense actually works here.

It's not really that useful for a safe since they aren't _that_ difficult to open and, if you haven't committed a crime, it's probably better to open your safe for them than have them destroy it so you need a new one. For a mathematically impossible to break cipher though, very useful.