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mempkoyesterday at 8:16 PM1 replyview on HN

You're right that $566B alone isn't a black swan. That FINRA figure only captures retail and small institutional margin at broker-dealers. It excludes prime brokerage (hedge funds), securities-based lending, and repo markets. Conservative estimates put total leveraged exposure at $10-15 trillion. The $566B is maybe 5% of the iceberg.

I see visible margin debt as both a canary and a proxy. It's a canary because retail cracks first (less sophisticated risk management, stricter regulatory margin). It's a proxy because when visible leverage contracts, it usually means hidden leverage is contracting too. They're exposed to the same assets. When FINRA margin debt starts falling, it's not just a warning, it's confirmation that system-wide deleveraging is already underway.

That's my 2c. Does that make sense?


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topspinyesterday at 10:22 PM

> a canary and a proxy

Whatever shenanigans are appear in the public record, multiply by 10x to approximate of the real story.

> Does that make sense?

Yep. 1929 called. Just to gloat. They don't want their market back.