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input_shtoday at 11:26 AM0 repliesview on HN

> YOU NEED THOSE PEOPLE TO MANAGE CLOUD TOO.

Finally, some sense! "Cloud" was meant to make ops jobs disappear, but they just increased our salary by turning us into "DevOps Engineers" and the company's hosting bill increased fivefold in the process. You will never convince even 1% of devs to learn the ops side properly, therefore you'll still end up hiring ops people and we will cost you more now. On top of that, everyone that started as a "DevOps Engineer" knows less about ops than those that started as ops and transitioned into being "DevOps Engineers" (or some flavour of it like SREs or Platform Engineers).

If you're a programmer scared into thinking AI is going to take away your job, re-read my comment.