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thehamkercatyesterday at 5:59 PM5 repliesview on HN

Same with opencode and gemini, it's disgusting

Codex (by openai ironically) seems to be the fastest/most-responsive, opens instantly and is written in rust but doesn't contain that many features

Claude opens in around 3-4 seconds

Opencode opens in 2 seconds

Gemini-cli is an abomination which opens in around 16 second for me right now, and in 8 seconds on a fresh install

Codex takes 50ms for reference...

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If their models are so good, why are they not rewriting their own react in cli bs to c++ or rust for 100x performance improvement (not kidding, it really is that much)


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g947oyesterday at 6:23 PM

Great question, and my guess:

If you build React in C++ and Rust, even if the framework is there, you'll likely need to write your components in C++/Rust. That is a difficult problem. There are actually libraries out there that allow you to build web UI with Rust, although they are for web (+ HTML/CSS) and not specifically CLI stuff.

So someone needs to create such a library that is properly maintained and such. And you'll likely develop slower in Rust compared to JS.

These companies don't see a point in doing that. So they just use whatever already exists.

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azinman2yesterday at 6:14 PM

Why does it matter if Claude Code opens in 3-4 seconds if everything you do with it can take many seconds to minutes? Seems irrelevant to me.

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shoeb00myesterday at 6:35 PM

codex cli is missing a bunch of ux features like resizing on terminal size change.

Opencode's core is actually written in zig, only ui orchestration is in solidjs. It's only slightly slower to load than neo-vim on my system.

https://github.com/anomalyco/opentui

bdangubicyesterday at 10:16 PM

50ms to open and then 2hrs to solve a simple problem vs 4s to open and then 5m to solve a problem, eh?

wahnfriedenyesterday at 6:15 PM

Codex team made the right call to rewrite its TypeScript to Rust early on