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realityfactchexyesterday at 7:22 PM6 repliesview on HN

First of all, I love LibreOffice very much as the last bastion of sanity in classic document suites, and I love what Collabora is trying to do with the online piece. So, first, a million thanks. Truly.

Now, to put on the the "feedback is a gift" and "radical transparency" caps.

From the screenshot comparison in TFA: The new one looks all Microsoft-Ribbony. That's a huge step backward. The big strength of LibreOffice or Collabora Desktop Classic is that it has a sane UI/menubar visual paradigm. (Which MS obliterated eons ago.)

But let's talk about what matters: Collabora (the online document suite) is slow as heck.

It needs to be fast-updating for shared multi-user docs, like Google Docs/Sheets or Word/Excel 365.

That should be the top priority. Full stop.

LibreOffice works fine for desktop. But, for Collabora, the web experience needs to be fast. The lag in Collabora is simply unacceptable.

People expect online, and they expect collaborative, and they expect nearly instantaneous updates (at least not painful to type and wait for screen to update).

Talk about misplaced priorities. In my very humble opinion.


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0x1chyesterday at 7:42 PM

At least to me, it seems most regular users would struggle and have their productivity reduced attempting to learn a new word processing UI. Everyone and their extended family has been trained on Microsoft products, with Microsoft UI design.

I think this matters for the paying customers of things like Collabora and LibreOffice, as they're using it in a work environment. Not at home.

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rlpbyesterday at 7:46 PM

> It needs to be fast-updating for shared multi-user docs, like Google Docs/Sheets or Word/Excel 365.

In my experience, Google Docs has this, but realtime collaboration with Word is unusable. Which is interesting, because that means a huge number of existing Office 365 users have yet to experience it.

I wonder if there's an opportunity there.

mosquitobitenyesterday at 10:16 PM

Ribbon has it's uses for certain people or situations. Of course menu is much faster but again for certain people.

ameliaquiningyesterday at 9:00 PM

The internal guts of Collabora's data models and such are based on the LibreOffice code, right? My understanding is that it's really hard to get Google Docs-like performance with real-time multi-user editing if the whole app wasn't engineered from the ground up to make it possible, which LibreOffice wasn't.

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zapzupnzyesterday at 7:57 PM

> The new one looks all Microsoft-Ribbony

LibreOffice has a Ribbon interface option, too.

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wazooxyesterday at 9:01 PM

I'm currently working on a set of documents with 3 or 4 other people in collabora and we have no more problems than with office 365. It works. You can type simultaneously even in the same line (one types while another corrects the spelling of the previous word, etc), no problem at all.