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alpaylantoday at 2:09 PM3 repliesview on HN

I think the point I wanted to make was that even if it was deterministic (which you can technically make it to be I guess?) you still shouldn’t live in a world where you’re guided by the “guesses” that the model makes when solidifying your intent into concrete code. Discounting hallucinations (I know this a is a big preconception, I’m trying to make the argument from a disadvantaged point again), I think you need a stronger argument than determinism in the discussion against someone who claims they can write in English, no reason for code anymore; which is what I tried to make here. I get your point that I might be taking the discussion to seriously though.


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liveoneggstoday at 2:29 PM

The future is about embracing absolute chaos. The great reveal of LLMs is that, for the most part, nothing actually mattered except the most shallow approximation of a thing.

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raw_anon_1111today at 4:34 PM

Before LLMs and now more than a decade ago in my career, I was assigned a task and my job was to translate that task into a working implementation. I was guided by the “guesses” that other developers made. I had to trust that they could do FizzBuzz competently without having to tell them to use the mod operator

Then my job became I am assigned a larger implementation and depending on how large the implementation was, I had to design specifications for others to do some or all of the work and validate the final product for correctness. I definitely didn’t pore over every line of code - especially not for front end work that I stopped doing around the same time.

The same is true for LLMs. I treat them like junior developers and slowly starting to treat them like halfway competent mid level ticket takers.

blazinglyfasttoday at 2:37 PM

> even if it was deterministic (which you can technically make it to be I guess?)

No. LLMs are undefined behavior.

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