alt Hacker NewsI'm on my 5th draft of an essentially vibe-coded project. Maybe its because I'm using not-frontier models to do the coding, but I have to take two or three tries to get the shape of a thing just right. Drafting like this is something I do when I code by hand, as well. I have to implement a thing a few times before I begin to understand the domain I'm working in. Once I begin to understand the domain, the separation of concerns follows naturally, and so do the component APIs (and how those APIs hook together).
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> Maybe its because I'm using not-frontier models to do the coding
IMO it’s probably that. The difference between where this was a a year ago and now is night and day, and not using frontier models is roughly like stepping back in time 6-12 months.
My suggestions:
- like the sister comment says, use the best model available. For me that has been opus but YMMV. Some of my colleagues prefer the OAI models.
- iterate on the plan until it looks solid. This is where you should invest your time.
- Watch the model closely and make sure it writes tests first, checks that they fail, and only then proceeds to implementation
- the model should add pieces one by one, ensuring each step works before proceeding. Commit each step so you can easily retry if you need to. Each addition will involve a new plan that you go back and forth on until you're happy with it. The planning usually gets easier as the project moves along.
- this is sometimes controversial, but use the best language you can target. That can be Rust, Haskell, Erlang depending on the context. Strong types will make a big difference. They catch silly mistakes models are liable to make.
Cursor is great for trying out the different models. If opus is what you like, I have found Claude code to be better value, and personally I prefer the CLI to the vscode UI cursor builds on. It's not a panacea though. The CLI has its own issues like occasionally slowing to a crawl. It still gets the work done.