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bramhaagyesterday at 2:51 PM17 repliesview on HN

What realistic open source alternatives to Discord are there? I'm currently considering moving to one of these with my friend group:

- Matrix

- Stoat, previously revolt (https://stoat.chat/)

- IRC + Mumble

- Signal


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buovjagayesterday at 7:32 PM

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arkhyesterday at 3:42 PM

One thing most of those lack is an easy way to share screen.

Now if anyone wants to differentiate their Discord alternative, they want to have most of discord functionalities and add the possibility to be in multiple voice chats (maybe with rights and a channel hierarchy + different push-to-talk binds). It's a missed feature when doing huge operations in games and using the Canary client is not always enough.

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tgsovlerkhgselyesterday at 8:59 PM

I think Matrix is the closest equivalent that's reasonably popular, at least for text messaging. There are both web and mobile clients and they interoperate seamlessly. It's also at the point where it somewhat reasonably works for the average user, rather than being the usual UX nightmare that teaches people that anything open source or anything pushed by their nerdy friend should be avoided.

ilikepiyesterday at 6:50 PM

This seems like a nice breakdown of some options:

https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives/

(Not affiliated)

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drzaiusx11yesterday at 2:55 PM

Does matrix have decent 1:N client desktop broadcasting with low latency (and high fps) yet? I use discord for "watch parties", video and tabletop gaming...

jiffygistyesterday at 7:53 PM

Discord's voice rooms with screen sharing is a very cool feature i depend on daily. I haven't seen opensource messenger that implemented this yet.

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joquarkyyesterday at 4:44 PM

Which of these has been around for over three decades?

That would be my answer.

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rickstanleyyesterday at 3:23 PM

I wonder how Stoat will fare, and how it is currently maintained, in terms of "making money"; my fear is that it would steer into the direction of Discord itself.

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Schlagbohreryesterday at 2:55 PM

I have found Element and Matrix to be totally unusable in iOS

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lostmsuyesterday at 3:03 PM

Revolt's rename to stoat is probably worse than any rebranding MSFT done ever.

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vagrantstreetyesterday at 6:22 PM

Zulip?

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MYEUHDyesterday at 6:03 PM

Snikket (https://snikket.org ) with Monal as the iOS client

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x01yesterday at 3:05 PM

For me, the closest alternative to Discord is Stoat. Matrix with Element (or other clients) would be great, but it feels so slow on both desktop and mobile.

encomyesterday at 3:50 PM

IRC was here before Discord, and it will still be here after.

I've never heard of Stoat. Looks like IRC but it's Electron. Total waste of time.

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ozlikethewizardyesterday at 3:44 PM

Last I checked Signal was not fully open source, which is iffy, believe their encryption protocol is still closed. That said its the best of a bad bunch for E2EE messaging. If you're on android I'd recommend doing what I do, which is installing from the APK on the site, manually verifying the sig locally (you can use termux for this), and then lagging ever so slightly behind on updates to avoid potential supply chain or hostile takeover attacks. This is probably over cautious for most threat profiles, but better safe than sorry imo. Also their server side stuff is close sourced, technically this isnt an issue though as long as the E2EE holds up to scrutiny though.

Edit: My information may be out of date, I cannot find any sources saying any part of the app is closed source these days, do your own research ofc but comfortable saying its the most accessible secure platform.