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RockstarSpraintoday at 3:20 PM7 repliesview on HN

One thing I heard from some of my friends as a reason why they don't like using Matrix (via Element clients) was inability to use "stickers" like one can on WhatsApp, iMessage and other messaging apps. Apparently, this was important enough for them to lose interest in the platform over it.

I guess the bar is pretty high for consumer messengers these days?


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lynndotpytoday at 6:18 PM

Not the primary use case for stickers, but what do you do when you're talking with someone for whom you're not literate in their language? Or someone who is not literate in any language?

Stickers provide utility beyond beyond a fun way to communicate. Stickers, emoji reactions, voice notes, etc. are things we tend to see denigrated here, but are also non-optional features for a messaging app in the year 2016.

happysadpanda2today at 4:21 PM

I don't know whether or not it is our instance at $dayjob that has a wonky setup, or if it is the elements client, or what (probably the client, as the problems all but disappear in the webb-ui version), but oh how many synchronization issues we are facing. threaded conversations not showing up, or randomly disappearing, clients getting stuck in message fetching loops, not actually fetching anything, notifications of new messages either not appearing, or not disappearing upon reading them, and ON TOP OF THAT no custom stickers/emojis/gifs...

but those synchronization issues... if I want to be sure something reaches the rest of the team in a timely manner, I have reverted back to email

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Saristoday at 3:36 PM

Yeah having a messaging app I enjoy using is important. Good UI and fun features make something worth using, it's why telegram is still my most used messenger.

riskabletoday at 3:45 PM

It also doesn't handle animated/looping gifs or webp properly. They don't loop.

To summarize the great big problem with Matrix: It's no fun. No fun at all.

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u1hcw9nxtoday at 4:20 PM

How is that not a feature?

Differently designed apps for social and professional life is a good idea! A streamlined app focused only on essential functionality is the best way to ensure meaningful coordination.

It is mentally taxing when critical work updates are buried under reactions, glitter, and casual banter. Moving memes and family updates to a dedicated 'leisure' app allows for a high-signal environment.

Something that gets things done, but also something where quick reactions are painful to do would be perfect.

Anonynekotoday at 3:44 PM

This was definitely a little frustrating. Matrix protocol does have stickers technically, I've been following that PR since its inception. But when I last used it in practice, admittedly a few years ago, the UX was lacking. Adding and posting stickers was _not_ straightforward, in fact adding new stickers was restricted somehow. Not sure how it works now, and maybe that's just inevitable with a decentralized protocol.

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notepad0x90today at 5:28 PM

quite the opposite, Matrix clients lack their own unique character. they play the feature-catch-up game instead of being original.