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morsecodisttoday at 5:03 PM2 repliesview on HN

> HK always was bound to become a part of China

Why so? Do you think Monaco should be part of France? Do you think Singapore should be part of Malaysia? A lot of big countries respect the sovereignty of neighboring smaller countries, although that is unfortunately becoming less true now.

It isn't about colonialism. I have never seen anyone seriously argue it should go back to the British. It is about a framework to ensure they maintain their rights. It would be great if that looked like expanded rights for all of China but it can also look like some degree of sovereignty, which was in place for quite some time.


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Bayarttoday at 5:18 PM

> Do you think Monaco should be part of France?

Monaco is already 90% part of France. There was an agreement until recently that Monaco would become French if the Princeship went extinct. By law the Prime Minister and the Police has to be French. France also handles their defense etc. It's very conditional sovereignty, the deal being that they can be a tax heaven if they want to, but not to France and Italy.

> Do you think Singapore should be part of Malaysia?

AFAIK they've been expelled from Malaysia after independence.

I'm not trying to disprove your point, just that it's fluid and fragile. Sovereignty itself has only been conceptually defined with the Treaties of Westphalia, it's recent and quintessentially Western.

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zelphirkalttoday at 5:32 PM

> It isn't about colonialism. I have never seen anyone seriously argue it should go back to the British.

Then you should read more of the comments here, and you will have that completely new experience.