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aaravchentoday at 5:17 AM7 repliesview on HN

Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use. Presumably you're already using Signal and getting mainstream contacts to start using it too. You probably have a basic profile that at least includes your real name, and might also have your picture. Maybe you're even one of the 7 people in the world that use the Stories feature in it. Well good news, now all of that is also unconditionally available to anyone in any group you ever join, including any future changes you ever make to that info, unrevocably forever into the future.

Signal has a fun dark pattern where it unrevocably grants permissions for anyone you allow to contact you to see everything in your profile for the rest of time. It has only a single trust level with contacts effectively: full trust. This is unacceptable in any tool you use for online community, unless you exclusively use it for online community and can decline to provide any info in this full-trust level. Unfortunately Signal also makes very sure you can't have a second account, by tying your account to a phone number, and only allowing one Signal instance per mobile device.

Is Signal good? Yes, but only exclusively for communication with people you already trust.

EDIT: typos


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raxxorraxortoday at 10:56 AM

I dislike Signal as I need to identify myself through info that is protected. Like a phone number for example.

Not a privacy app in my opinion. Sure, might be good for some use cases... but overall there are better solutions.

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derkadestoday at 8:36 AM

The part about stories is not true. When sending a story you can choose who to send it to. To make it easier you can even put people in groups

ozlikethewizardtoday at 7:37 AM

You can have multiple instances of signal on a mobile device, and you can use VoiP or eSIMs to register. Signal with an online persona revealing no identifying information, registered to a cash purchased eSIM on an ungoogled android is as good as your getting. Why do you think so many jurisdictions are trying to ban both GrapheneOS and Signal.

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pybtoday at 9:57 AM

How could Signal be considered privacy-conscious ? The first thing they do is ask for your phone number.

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gsaslistoday at 10:49 AM

I didn't think I'd ever be part of any group of 7 people in the world, but today is that day, I guess.

And I know one more of those people already!

5 more to go.

fsflovertoday at 9:41 AM

> Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use

And it ranks near Discord in terms of removing the single point of failure.

mastermagetoday at 7:06 AM

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