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hnfongtoday at 3:50 PM6 repliesview on HN

Even putting aside issue of geopolitics, it's quite baffling to me that every country besides China and Russia are paying ~0.2% "sales tax" to corporate America.


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hirako2000today at 4:00 PM

Not 0.2%

Visa: 1.3% to 2.3% Mastercard: 1.5% to 2.6% Mastercard: 2.3% to 3.5%

Nothing precise as it depends on whether that's debit vs credit cards, and the type of card. Also volume related and what the bank may subsidize, or take on top.

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kruncktoday at 4:01 PM

This. And don't forget that most businesses have in their payment processing contract terms (set forth by Visa/MC ) that prevent the business from directly charging card users the card processing fees. Which means that everybody - even cash users - pay for those fees. What a racket.

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luke5441today at 4:18 PM

I get the Visa card for free from my bank whereas I have to pay for the Girocard (German alternative). Presumably the bank gets a cut of the fee.

miroljubtoday at 4:01 PM

No every, you just don't know it ;)

There was a recent case of one Serbian company being sanctioned by the USA, and Visa and Master refused to process payments. No big deal, since even a small country like Serbia has its payment system called Dina that kept the company afloat.

There's not a single technical reason for bigger and richer countries to develop their own card payment system. It's not rocket science. The only reason they didn't is their regulators wanted a dependency on the USA payment processors.

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theseadroidtoday at 6:22 PM

japan mostly uses paypay, just saying

Braxton1980today at 4:12 PM

One positive aspect to Trump is he makes it desirable to punish/break up with US companies .