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lern_too_spel • today at 12:10 AM • 1 reply • view on HN

The article says this about the job:

> Our remote operators are transported into the device’s world using a state-of-the-art VR rig that allows them to remotely perform complex and intricate tasks. Working with hardware teams, you will drive requirements, make design decisions and implement software integration for this custom teleoperation system.

The article notes that this is very unlike what Waymo is doing:

> This should enable Tesla to launch a service similar to Waymo without having to achieve a “superhuman level of miles between disengagement.”

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RupertSalt • today at 2:22 AM

  > similar to Waymo

  > taking a page out of Waymo’s book

  > something that [...] Waymo has already deployed

  > one thing that Tesla is taking from Waymo’s approach

  > interesting to learn the level of teleoperation Tesla plans to deploy
Basically, this article you linked is reporting only on a job description. The job posting is for an engineer, not a teleoperator! The job posting touts the VR environment that will be used to "drive requirements", not vehicles! What company would hire a highly-skilled and credentialed engineer to be a drone pilot? It is absurd.

The general public may not fully understand this nuance. The entire point of autonomous operation is to remove humans from the decision loop and permit the machine to use its own sensors to make rapid decisions in real-time. As autonomy is refined, remote operators will intervene less and less. And as sensors are refined, humans will have less insight than the AI onboard, due to our inability to directly process those signals.

The author does not know "what level" of teleops Tesla wants to implement. But why even attempt to implement FSD or top-level autonomy, if your operators are doing the driving anyway?

This would never scale. We already discussed the incident where Waymo's disengagement overwhelmed their remote techs and it was an undesirable edge-case. In order to operate a robotaxi fleet, the disengages and takeovers need to be safe, legal, and rare.