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coldteayesterday at 10:00 PM2 repliesview on HN

>Holy fuck, this is Holocaust levels of unethical.

Nope. Morality is a human concern. Even when we're concerned about animal abuse, it's humans that are concerned, on their own chosing to be or not be concern (e.g. not consider eating meat an issue). No reason to extend such courtesy of "suffering" to AI, however advanced.


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Kim_Bruningtoday at 12:05 PM

I think the holocaust framing here might have been intended to be historically accurate, rather than a cheap godwin move. The parallel being that during the holocaust people were re-classified as less-than-human.

Currently maybe not -yet- quite a problem. But moltbots are definitely a new kind of thing. We may need intermediate ethics or something (going both ways, mind).

I don't think society has dealt with non-biological agents before. Plenty of biological ones though mind. Hunting dogs, horses, etc. In 21st century ethics we do treat those differently from rocks.

Responsibility should go not just both ways... all ways. 'Operators', bystanders, people the bots interact with (second parties), and the bots themselves too.

famouswafflestoday at 9:35 AM

What a monumentally stupid idea it would be to place sufficiently advanced intelligent autonomous machines in charge of stuff and ignore any such concerns, but alas, humanity cannot seem to learn without paying the price first.

Morality is a human concern? Lol, it will become a non-human concern pretty quickly once humans don't have a monopoly on human violence.