alt Hacker NewsThis is becoming a predictable pattern in infrastructure tooling: build community on open source, get adoption, then pivot to closed source once you need revenue. Elastic, Redis, Terraform, now MinIO.
The frustrating part isn't the business decision itself. It's that every pivot creates a massive migration burden on teams who bet on the "open" part. When your object storage layer suddenly needs replacing, that's not a weekend project. You're looking at weeks of testing, data migration, updating every service that touches S3-compatible APIs, and hoping nothing breaks in production.
For anyone evaluating infrastructure dependencies right now: the license matters, but the funding model matters more. Single-vendor open source projects backed by VC are essentially on a countdown timer. Either they find a sustainable model that doesn't require closing the source, or they eventually pull the rug.
Community-governed projects under foundations (Ceph under Linux Foundation, for example) tend to be more durable even if they're harder to set up initially. The operational complexity of Ceph vs MinIO was always the tradeoff - but at least you're not going to wake up one morning to a "THIS REPOSITORY IS NO LONGER MAINTAINED" commit.
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I guess we need a new type of Open Source license. One that is very permissive except if you are a company with a much larger revenue than the company funding the open source project, then you have to pay.
While I loath the moves to closed source you also can't fault them the hyperscalers just outcompete them with their own software.
This is the newer generations re-discovering why various flavours of Shareware and trial demos existed since the 1980's, even though sharing code under various licenses is almost as old as computing.
> For anyone evaluating infrastructure dependencies right now: the license matters, but the funding model matters more. Single-vendor open source projects backed by VC are essentially on a countdown timer. Either they find a sustainable model that doesn't require closing the source, or they eventually pull the rug.
I struggle to even find example of VC-backed OSS that didn't go "ok closing down time". Only ones I remember (like Gitlab) started with open core model, not fully OSS
I think the landscape has changed with those hyperscalers outcompeting open-source projects with alternative profit avenues for the money available in the market.
From my experience, Ceph works well, but requires a lot more hardware and dedicated cluster monitoring versus something like more simple like Minio; in my eyes, they have a somewhat different target audience. I can throw Minio into some customer environments as a convenient add-on, which I don't think I could do with Ceph.
Hopefully one of the open-source alternatives to Minio will step in and fill that "lighter" object storage gap.
Well, anyone using the product of an open source project is free to fork it and then take on the maintenance. Or organize multiple users to handle the maintenance.
I don't expect free shit forever.
ai
> Elastic, Redis, Terraform, now MinIO.
Redis is the odd one out here[1]: Garantia Data, later known as Redis Labs, now known as Redis, did not create Redis, nor did it maintain Redis for most of its rise to popularity (2009–2015) nor did it employ Redis’s creator and then-maintainer 'antirez at that time. (He objected; they hired him; some years later he left; then he returned. He is apparently OK with how things ended up.) What the company did do is develop OSS Redis addons, then pull the rug on them while saying that Redis proper would “always remain BSD”[2], then prove that that was a lie too[3]. As well as do various other shady (if legal) stuff with the trademarks[4] and credits[5] too.
[1] https://www.gomomento.com/blog/rip-redis-how-garantia-data-p...
[2] https://redis.io/blog/redis-license-bsd-will-remain-bsd/
[3] https://lwn.net/Articles/966133/
[4] https://github.com/redis-rs/redis-rs/issues/1419
[5] https://github.com/valkey-io/valkey/issues/544