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gpderettatoday at 10:16 AM1 replyview on HN

> In modern days, most cars have an anti-theft feature that restricts the turning of the steering wheel if the key is not inserted in the ignition

This needs updating:

> In the past, most cars had an anti-theft feature that restricted the turning of the steering wheel if the key was not inserted in the ignition. These days, for convenience, is enough that the key has been in the vicinity of the car in the recent past.


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formerly_proventoday at 10:27 AM

It’s a lemon market, as a car buyer there are no outward telling features whether the keyless entry system is susceptible to repeater attacks (most new cars still are), whether just anyone briefly inside the car can register new keys, whether it uses strong crypto, or whether a couple grand buy you a master key that unlocks and puts into drive most cars of a brand (famously Kia/Hyundai to this day, who also have all of the other vulnerabilities). Car reviews don’t mention any of these things, even when they are definitely known and tested (rarely) by some third parties. Strangely, not even the OEMs who have secure systems use them for advertising.

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