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slekkeryesterday at 2:45 PM6 repliesview on HN

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esskayyesterday at 3:13 PM

About as bad as a US based server then if we're being realistic. EU based (and not owned by Amazon/MS/Google/etc) seems like the only semi secure hosting option these days.

embedding-shapeyesterday at 3:12 PM

More generally useful answer: Anything you input into the internet lives (probably) on not-your-servers, treat the information you give away accordingly.

eckelhestenyesterday at 3:12 PM

Honestly, that’s way better than having my data stored in US or Israel. The further away from home the better.

nylon4831yesterday at 2:54 PM

> those who care about this stuff

and OpenClaw users are mutually exclusive

pbronezyesterday at 3:13 PM

Yes. Kimi is a brand of Moonshot Ai. Moonshot is legally incorporated in Singapore; executives and devs are mostly in Beijing.

They reportedly use Alibaba cloud extensively, at least for training. Terms of Service say the service is governed by Singaporean law.

Personally, I’d assume the CCP has full access to every packet you send them. K series of models looks cool; you can run they M through Azure if you prefer to do business with a western entity or self host.

igraviousyesterday at 2:53 PM

So?

Yes Moonshot AI is a Chinese corp. So?

Under every OpenAI or Anthropic article do you put "Disclaimer for those who care about this stuff: the servers are in the USA." If not, why not?

And to what stuff do you refer?

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