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America's Future Leaders Are Learning to Become Grifters

27 pointsby paulpaupertoday at 9:50 PM11 commentsview on HN

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SunshineTheCattoday at 10:27 PM

I don't know how much this plays a role, and this is anecdotal, but I feel like the last 5-10 years or so, folks have put increasing stock in being (or being portrayed as) a victim.

A hobby growing in popularity seems to be perusing the internet on the lookout for something to be "outraged" by, no matter how mundane.

As someone who played hockey for years, this always felt like such a contrast from my experience where the norm was to conceal an injury and power through so you could keep playing.

If you were bleeding and unphased, you were the envy of your teammates. If a guy was limping off the ice after blocking a shot, you did not want to see the bruise he had underneath.

What I will be interested in seeing is, as students graduate into the job market, how the feigning victimhood approach fits into getting a well paying job. For all I know, it may pay off. Only time will tell I guess.

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JohnBrookztoday at 10:35 PM

This shouldn’t be news. I grew up in Texas and most of my high school’s top 8% were cheating to stay ahead. Older siblings handed down tests and kids snuck into classes to steal exams.

At my university most kids I knew cheated. Having done the work honestly - lots of classmates would ask if they could glimpse my answers during exams.

In my naivety I believed that there would be somewhat of a comeuppance but no they’re just as successful (and some even more!) than I. When the outcomes are extreme, people will do anything to stay ahead.

Most Americans are honest hard working people. Don’t be them is the hard lesson I’ve learned.

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recursivedoubtstoday at 10:22 PM

"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." -John Adams

if the religious part bothers you, substitute "willing to forgo benefits on principle rather than economic and utilitarian calculation, despite recognizing the prisoners dilemma of doing so"

not as snappy, but maybe less emotionally charged

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rossvctoday at 10:23 PM

In a society characterized by low trust and led by shameless leaders, what else can one expect?

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mcs5280today at 10:28 PM

Learning?

watwuttoday at 10:19 PM

Well, all the stuff in Epstein files and all the leaders and supposed thinkers in them, Trump, Weiss, Kennedy, DOJ resigning ... one can safely say that existing elites are grifters. When relations to criminals, criminality itself and spectacular moral rot are rewarded in actual leadership, disability accomodation is not the primary issue.

Do you want future moral leaders? Prosecute Trump, Epstein friends, Musk, Bovino, Thiel and investigate corruption om supreme court. Investigate cops murdering citizens too. Investigate wall street.

Also, article did not claimed they are getting advantages on tests, just that they claim disability. There were no data on test advantages.

The biggest issue seemed to be ability to claim food intolerance to avoid mandatory cantine eating - so they get cheaper food. Plus some dorm room allocation issue.

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