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jdrosstoday at 6:08 AM11 repliesview on HN

I am so confused when I read things like this because my Tesla model 3 is effectively self driving for me for months now. Hundreds of miles without intervention. No other car I can buy can do this yet


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herewegotoday at 3:19 PM

You and I must not drive the same Tesla brand then because my Model Y is a terrifying experience when “self-driving” anywhere besides on highways.

I do wonder if folks who say Tesla’s FSD works well and safely are simply lacking a self-preservation instinct.

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thefoundertoday at 6:16 AM

That’s irresponsible at best give it doesn’t support full self driving. I never understood why end users are allowed to just beta test a car on public roads.

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tempestntoday at 6:31 AM

Based on the self driving trials in my Model Y, I find it terrifying that anyone trusts it to drive them around. It required multiple interventions in a single 10-minute drive last time I tried it.

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tsimionescutoday at 6:36 AM

You need only look at Tesla's attempts to compete with Waymo to see that you are just wrong. They tried to actually deploy fully autonomous Teslas, and it doesn't really work, it requires a human supervisor per car.

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dvrj101today at 6:21 AM

"No other car I can buy can do this yet"

How many have you tested in your day to day life?

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chimpanzeetoday at 6:22 AM

Hundreds of miles is not an appropriate sample size for the technology's intended scale.

See this related article and discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47051546

Yossarrian22today at 12:40 PM

Because if you get in an accident you personally not Tesla are liable. Soon as I’m not liable for an accident when the computer is driving I’d sell my other cars and put my family in pink PT Cruisers if those were the only cars offering that

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wolvoleotoday at 7:01 AM

Can you watch a Netflix and have a beer while it's driving? No? Then it's not self driving.

Mawrtoday at 6:20 AM

Ask those who were killed while using FSD for their opinion on it before forming your own ;)

panick21_today at 9:41 AM

The data from their self driving pilots disagrees even if it works for you. Its simply not read to be a taxi that makes money by itself.

It might a nice feature for your car to have. But most people aren't paying for it, the conversion rate is very low.

So they are not making money from taxis and not making much money from software sales.

So does it matter that for you personally it drives you around sometimes?

Even if you price in a 4x increase in FSD buy conversion ratio, you can't explain the stock price.

And I say this as a former Tesla investor who assumed that conversion ratio would be better then it is. But for that reason (and many others) I couldn't justify the valuation and dropped the stock.

Retrictoday at 6:22 AM

Months where you’re still required to be paying attention. Meanwhile 2 years ago Mercedes-Benz Drive Pilot a level 3 system let you sit and watch a movie without paying attention to the road.

Personally that’s way more useful for me even if they didn’t let you turn it on at highway speeds.

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