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dns_snekyesterday at 9:09 AM1 replyview on HN

None of that is inherent to socialism. There can be good and bad management, freedom and authoritarianism in any economic system.


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inglor_czyesterday at 9:23 AM

Socialist economies larger than kibbutzes could only be created and sustained by totalitarian states. Socialism means collective ownership of means of production.

And people won't give up their shops and fields and other means of production to the government voluntarily, at least not en masse. Thus they have to be forced at a gunpoint, and they always were.

All the subsequent horror is downstream from that. This is what is inherent to building a socialist economy: mass expropriation of the former "exploitative class". The bad management of the stolen assets is just a consequence, because ideologically brainwashed partisans are usually bad at managing anything including themselves.

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