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Arizona Bill Requires Age Verification for All Apps

94 pointsby bilsbietoday at 5:38 PM59 commentsview on HN

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advisedwangtoday at 6:10 PM

In my ideal world a law would:

1. Require device manufacturers to allow the device owner (which covers parents of minors' devices) to set policy for the device, including allow/blocklist for apps and sites, and allow/blocklists for content categories.

2. Require browsers to respect the device's policy for site allow/blocklist

3. Require browsers to set a certain header for allow/blocklist of content categories

4. Require websites to respect that header.

No need for age verification, no need for the government to decide what is/isn't allowed and for free you allow gamblers to prevent gambling content being shown to them etc.

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This AZ law is frustrating because by targeting the app store it's actually taking a step towards my vision... but in a way that multiplies the harm of age verification instead of diminishing it.

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t1234stoday at 6:34 PM

This is a bait-and-switch that will be used to roll in an internet ID for all people. I believe this is why M$ is trying to force people to log in to their local machines with a microsoft account.

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herftoday at 6:06 PM

The days you move between categories can establish your birthdate, which is a lot of bits if you are doing this on an individual level (basically it's a great start at a supercookie).

agentifyshtoday at 7:12 PM

Curious, what is driving this "you need permission to use the internet" bills suddenly ?

Really miss the old internet.

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Fervicustoday at 7:29 PM

All of a sudden various governments and tech companies want to do age verification. Co-incidence?

Glyptodontoday at 6:22 PM

One thing to keep in mind is that every session has crazy proposals in AZ. (Not clear how many of them get anywhere.)

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nininininotoday at 7:43 PM

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media_age_verification_... for a full picture of US states age verification laws, states in the article include: Arkansas California Florida Georgia Louisiana Mississippi Nebraska New York Ohio Tennessee Texas Utah

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2OEH8eoCRo0today at 7:26 PM

Remember when children weren't even supposed to use the internet unsupervised? What happened? The internet hasn't gotten any less filthy.

tabs_or_spacestoday at 6:44 PM

What would be interesting to know is which age verification services are popular these days?

nephihahatoday at 6:20 PM

Who do they think they are? The UK?

mothballedtoday at 6:01 PM

You don't need an ID of any sort to conceal carry a gun in AZ, but you need one for an app?

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gigel82today at 6:47 PM

It's clear these "age verification" bills will just keep coming and it's a losing battle to try and oppose each individually.

Instead (or rather in addition to) activism we should go at it from the other end and request the introduction of a verifiably independent authority and zero knowledge protocol that will deliver a cryptographically secure boolean bit (isOver18) with no way to correlate from either end the ID or which website the bit is used for.

The alternative is IDs get collected by all these horrendous privacy fiends and sold / leaked / monetized across the board, which sounds like a dystopian nightmare.

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PoisedPrototoday at 6:08 PM

This state fucking reeks.