I have never had a non wtf moment talking to an apple software engineer at a bar.

I can recall one explaining to me in the mid 20 teens that the next iPhone would be literally impossible to jailbreak in any capacity with 100% confidence.

I could not understand how someone that capable(he was truly bright) could be that certain. That is pure 90s security arrogance. The only secure computer is one powered off in a vault, and even then I am not convinced.

Multiple exploits were eventually found anyway.

We never exchanged names. That’s the only way to interact with engineers like that and talk in real terms.