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prmphtoday at 9:43 AM5 repliesview on HN

Interesting.

Each time a Chinese model makes the news, I wonder: How come no major models are coming from Japan or Europe?


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rester324today at 10:28 AM

You would be surprised to see how much the japanese IT industry is behind the times (a decade at least IMO). There is only a very limited startup culture here (both in size and talentpool and business ideas), there is no real risk taking venture capital market here (maybe Masayoshi Son is the exception here, but again he tends to invest in the US mostly) and most software companies use very very very outdated management practices. On top of that most software development had been/has been outsourced to India, Vietnam, China, etc, so management see no value in software talent... SW engineers' social recognition here are mostly on the level of accountants. Under such circumstances japan will never have a chance to contribute to AI meaningfully (other than niche academic research)

Tepixtoday at 11:17 AM

The Koreans have released some good models lately. And Mistral is also release open weights models that aren't too shabby.

jstummbilligtoday at 9:48 AM

Have you heard of Mistral? I would consider Mistral major, albeit not frontier.

wazooxtoday at 11:49 AM

Have you heard of Pleias ? Their SML baguettotron is blazingly fast, and surprisingly good at reasoning (but it's not programming-oriented).

tonis2today at 10:24 AM

Cause Europe only good at writing fines for other tech companies