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inglor_czyesterday at 10:05 PM9 repliesview on HN

Not everything is about money. The killer app of the US used to be that the US was rich and welcoming to foreigners and politically quite free.

China or Saudi Arabia can wave their money around, but at least some people will be repulsed by the obligation to keep their mouths shut and praise the Dear Leader.

Their cultural insularity does not help either. You can live in China, but you will never be accepted as Chinese. The US was quite unique (together with Canada, Australia etc.) that it was able and willing to accept you as an American even with a funny accent, as long as you wanted to be one.


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Cyph0nyesterday at 11:33 PM

Just to add one more point that makes the US attractive to global talent: citizenship. In particular: 1) citizenship at birth and 2) viable path to citizenship via green card.

Of course, both of these are in the crosshairs for “revision”.

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dylan604yesterday at 10:25 PM

> The US was quite unique

Well, based on the current admin and supporters, only part of the US was unique

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deauxtoday at 5:54 AM

> The US was quite unique (together with Canada, Australia etc.) that it was able and willing to accept you as an American even with a funny accent, as long as you wanted to be one.

Very select parts of the US. Would've thought that the last 9 years taught you that for huge swathes of it, this was never true.

mikestorrentyesterday at 10:59 PM

Well, perhaps it is time for large, ethnically-homogenous countries that are on the ascent to adopt diversity policies of the sort that the US was approaching before the "vibe shift"

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dragonwriteryesterday at 11:58 PM

> The killer app of the US used to be that the US was rich and welcoming to foreigners and politically quite free.

Yeah, it used to be the that the US only committed ethnic cleansing against people that were here first, not foreigners, and was so welcoming to foreigners that it would expend resources to have them shipped here as property.

michaelteteryesterday at 11:22 PM

Are you suggesting that anyone who lives and works here in the US can be accepted as “American”?

Are you also implying that in the US anyone is free to speak negatively of “dear leader”?

There are a multitude of current examples to the contrary.

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mulmenyesterday at 10:28 PM

> China or Saudi Arabia can wave their money around, but at least some people will be repulsed by the obligation to keep their mouths shut and praise the Dear Leader.

I mean we are literally putting people in concentration camps right now. Kinda hard to take the moral high ground at the moment. Scientists are fleeing the United States for their safety, just like they did from 1930s Germany.

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cyanydeezyesterday at 10:53 PM

America is hostile to science and technology. I'm not sure how anyone with a functional desire to improve humanity decides "Hey, those americans, they sure do deserve better vaccines."

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dheerayesterday at 10:23 PM

> Not everything is about money.

It is when researchers can't make enough money to eat and live, which is an actual reality in the US right now.

Researchers at top institutions often make less than Uber drivers.

There are other countries where you can live on less and the government isn't dipping their hands into your pockets every 5 seconds.

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