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nrdsyesterday at 11:23 PM3 repliesview on HN

Indeed, I wonder whether the vaccine content matters at all in current vaccines. We could probably just inject people with the adjuvants and get the same result.


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alphazardtoday at 12:21 AM

> I wonder whether the vaccine content matters at all in current vaccines.

The target does matter, that is the basis for the whole technology, and the thing most predictive of efficacy. That's why the flu shots often don't work and the shots for smallpox and measles do, the flu is a more rapidly mutating target.

Going crazy with the adjuvants was popular during the pandemic when it became clear that the virus had mutated (the target protein), but no one wanted to do R&D for a new target. Counting white blood cells became a proxy for efficacy, and you can manipulate that stat with adjuvants.

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rustyhancocktoday at 2:37 AM

The content clearly matters, and efficacy is tracked (this year it was poor because the eventual pandemic flu strain was a H3N2 virus which mutate rapidly)[0]. This was despite WHO updating the recommendations at the last hour in April/May 2025.

But critically this isn't as important as people think. The primary goal of the flu vaccination is of course to temper spread of the main viruses that season. But it's also to build people's immune library of exposure to flu viruses.

Recall that the 1918 "Spanish" flu was so terrible not because it was intrinsically a worse virus but that it was one which many younger generations had not been previously exposed.

COVID has meant that many younger generations again has a much smaller library of past exposure.

[0] https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/influenza-vaccines/estimated-effe...

pavel_lishinyesterday at 11:49 PM

Why not just eat a handful of dirt?

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