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black_puppydogtoday at 12:35 AM1 replyview on HN

Sorry, but whatever you think about the laws that lead to these blockages, how else are european governments supposed to take that than a direct attack on their executive powers by a foreign government?

This being besides the fact that the folks crying wolf over "censorship" regularly conflate flat-out lies with valuable and protected speech.

Edit: I mean, I love tor as much as the next person, but imagine the reaction you'd get if an EU state (say, Germany) was to launch an official page with the express goal of allowing access to information censored by the Chinese government, targeting it directly to chinese citizens.

Could you make a moral case for this? Probably.

But would you be surprised or offended if the Chinese government took any measures they saw fit to strong-arm Germany into shutting that site right back down? Probably not. And the crowd here would probably go "bruh what did you expect?"

... Now waiting for examples of exactly that having happened already. :D


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nradovtoday at 12:37 AM

In enlightened, civilized countries speech is protected regardless of whether anyone subjectively considers it to be "valuable".

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