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Training a Human Takes 20 Years of Food

13 pointsby Aldipowertoday at 7:17 PM6 commentsview on HN

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mitthrowaway2today at 8:29 PM

Yes it does. It's kind of a fixed cost though, since we're going to feed and educate our youth anyway, unless Sam Altman would have those people to starve to death.

7777777philtoday at 8:14 PM

This comparison only works if you assume scaling keeps paying off. Sara Hooker's research shows (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5877662) compact models now outperform massive predecessors and scaling laws only predict pre-training loss, not downstream performance. If marginal returns on compute are falling (https://philippdubach.com/posts/the-most-expensive-assumptio...), "energy per query" hides the real problem, a trillion dollars of infrastructure built on the bet that they won't.

p0w3n3dtoday at 10:10 PM

You are the carbon they want to reduce

bravetravelertoday at 9:38 PM

Now compare our waste and what might be extracted, psycho.

kderbymatoday at 8:12 PM

This what I expect from a mid marketing team.....not a supposed visionary thought leader (/s).....

This is completely fallacious thinking that I assume is meant as a means of manipulating people who dont think deeply about the implications and procession of ideas that leads such obviously disingenuous intelluctual dishonesty....

Waste heat....is not the same as a biologically closed loop which microbes, bacyerium, myceliums, and plants and aninals all work in a concerted effort....

My Food becomes fertilizer....His waste becomes nothing of utility (unless they have amazing efficiencies that defy what we know about physics...)

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