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merlindrutoday at 1:39 AM5 repliesview on HN

claude -p is allowed as far as I'm aware.

if i understand correctly, they even have a wrapper around it to make it easier to use: the Claude Agent SDK

the thing that's disallowed is pretending you're the claude binary, logging in through OAuth

in other words, if you use some product thats not Claude Code, and your browser opens asking you to "give Claude Code access to your account", you're in hot water

as for how they detect it: they say they use heuristics and usage patterns. if something falls wildly out of the distribution it's a ban.

my take is that the problem is not the means of detection. that's fine and seems to work well. the problem is that its an instant outright ban. they should give you a couple warning emails, then a timeout, etc.


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adastra22today at 2:09 AM

The Claude Agent SDK is explicitly disallowed from subscription use, as of a few days ago.

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skeledrewtoday at 2:27 AM

Why a couple warnings and timeout? 1 warning that the next incident will lead to a ban should be enough. Treat people like adults, not kids.

akssassin907today at 2:44 AM

The heuristic detection approach is fine. The penalty ladder is broken.

Reasonable progression: warning email → quota throttle → AI Pro subscription suspended → Google account suspended.

They skipped to step 4 on a first offense, paid account, no appeal. That's not a terms enforcement system, that's a hostage situation. "Comply or lose your digital life."

The real lesson isn't "don't use OpenClaw." It's: never let one company own your primary identity infrastructure.

gopiltoday at 4:03 AM

Is OpenClaw a product though? It's more like a system/framework.

nikcubtoday at 1:49 AM

> they say they use heuristics and usage patterns.

cache hit rate alone would stand out

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