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Betelbuddytoday at 3:14 PM6 repliesview on HN

Saying this is just the market...is like saying housing is a free market after hedge funds buy your entire neighborhood...


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NikolaNovaktoday at 3:32 PM

But... They're not wrong. That IS the market. Unrestricted, gloriously free market with its historically predictable outcomes - yay!

That's not where the interesting discussion is. The interesting discussion is with the notion that free unregulated markets are universally good and will naturally lead to positive outcomes because... I don't know, I'm personally not religious, but somebody here will help me :-).

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xp84today at 3:27 PM

People love to say that but they own a very small percentage of housing in reality. What’s driving housing costs is also supply and demand. Especially supply, since we’re not allowed to build any houses in most places people want to live.

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Aurornistoday at 4:49 PM

Hedge funds don’t have as high of institutional ownership as you assume. It’s actually pretty small.

That said, nothing about the situation you described is at odds with “free market”. You’re describing the operation of a free market.

I think a lot of people want “free market” to mean the opposite: A highly restricted market where they are protected from any supply and demand inputs from anyone else. They just want cheap things and don’t want to compete with anyone.

There are two sides to a free market, though. In your example where a hedge fund comes in and buys your entire neighborhood, they would have to do so by outbidding everyone. This drives up the price. If it’s an economically irrational move you’d be smart to sell your house to them at an inflated rate, too! Then move back in when the prices crash down.

Seattle3503today at 5:06 PM

Are there regulatory barriers to entering the DRAM market like there are in housing?

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nradovtoday at 3:27 PM

Which neighborhoods are now entirely owned by hedge funds?

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anthonypasqtoday at 3:23 PM

correct, both of those things are examples of free markets

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