Those people aren't the same. Those are two ideas that you heard from the internet, and you're imagining it's the same person talking.
Some of them are the same.
It's a Venn diagram: there are two camps and there is no doubt some overlap because the number of people involved. GP was obviously talking about the overlap, not literally equating this with two specific people or two groups that are 100% overlapping.
Hmm? I have 100% met people that fall into this.
There's a name for this: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Goomba_fallacy