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Avicebronyesterday at 11:41 PM8 repliesview on HN

Authoritarian central planning isn't an inherent trait of engineers and nor should we aspire for it to be.


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mikestorrenttoday at 12:05 AM

You don't need to brand efficiency and structure-at-scale as "authoritarian"; how painfully American of you. I know it's a completely foreign concept for anyone that has grown up in America, but it's actually within the realm of human possibility for the government and the individual to be aligned and want the same thing. Typically this is evidenced by tremendous social progress, which we see in evidence with the rapidly rising standard of living in China over the last few decades.

It's easier when your government is proposing "hey, let's build all the factories the best way we can" and not "hey, let's impose illogical and continually-changing tariffs on everything and let Howard Lutnick's kids steal all the proceeds". You're right as an American to be skeptical of the government - it's not operating in your best interests unless you're one of the elite insiders. That doesn't mean it has to be that way.

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mlsuyesterday at 11:42 PM

Have you met an engineer? I'd say "being an engineer" is probably the single most predictive trait for authoritarianism in my experience.

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callmealtoday at 7:13 AM

>Authoritarian central planning isn't an inherent trait of engineers and nor should we aspire for it to be.

I would say that for long-term engineering projects (building bridges etc) authoritarian central planning is a required trait.

jmknolltoday at 1:42 AM

I think what the person you're replying to is referring to is the fact that, in contrast to the US, many senior politicians in China literally have engineering backgrounds, or at least engineering degrees. Although this has actually been less true in the past 10-15 years. This article gives a bit of an overview - https://www.chinausfocus.com/2022-CPC-congress/chinese-techn...

mullingitovertoday at 7:28 AM

It’s funny because the foundation of neoliberal economies is the corporation: a strict authoritarian planned economy.

_benttoday at 2:18 AM

Every single privately run company is authoritarian.

BurningFrogtoday at 12:50 AM

China hasn't done much central planning for many decades.

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