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mschuster91yesterday at 6:49 PM3 repliesview on HN

> Why don't they asphalt curb to curb for a mile and then come back and do the ramps one at a time?

As someone who did a stint in this kind of construction: not possible, you'd still need to re-pave about 30-50cm worth of road, because curbstones are (usually) suspended in a bunch of concrete to avoid them getting dislocated by cars hitting or driving over them. The result will be a faultline from which you will get potholes in freeze cycles.

The proper way is to do everything at once, leaving one slab of contiguous asphalt without faultlines.


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linkjuice4allyesterday at 7:07 PM

LA is fortunate in that it doesn't suffer from freeze/thaw cycles and can put down a lot more concrete without worrying about expansion/contraction and water ingress.

I've noticed that a fair amount of concrete sidewalk in Los Angeles appears to have been poured when the neighborhoods were first developed (as in post-WW2) and haven't been removed or updated since then (at least based on the date/contractor stamps). Again, the lack of freezing weather, wide streets that don't necessitate parking/loading on the sidewalk, and fewer tree roots to uproot/disturb the gutters and sidewalks means that the original infrastructure is still in use.

More to the point - creating curb cuts is more than just customizing concrete forms. Oftentimes you'll need to regrade the surrounding area to reduce slope, move any in-ground utilities, and revisit any other updates to building codes (such as the bike lane stuff mentioned in the article). Not everything in/under the streets is owned by the same city/county/state/federal department/private org so that further complicates the work.

If only the real estate speculators that settled this swampy valley had considered this stuff in the early 20th century...

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mdorazioyesterday at 7:04 PM

Worth noting that LA does not have freeze cycles. I wonder what the pothole formation likelihood is as a result.

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djoldmanyesterday at 7:42 PM

Interesting! Is it possible to make the ramps offsite and then fit into place?

EDIT: I'm assuming the difficulty here is the pedestrian ramps at intersections. NOT the curb that spans the entirety of a road section.

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