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aurareturnyesterday at 3:06 PM11 repliesview on HN

HN told me OpenAI was on the verge of collapse.


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bandramiyesterday at 8:38 PM

I don't know that OpenAI specifically is the weak link but this definitely adds to the argument that the entire sector is a wash with the same three or four companies passing around the same $50B over and over. OpenAI is just the link that seems most likely to break first.

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wongarsuyesterday at 3:26 PM

I've seen this sentiment (OpenAI collapse imminent) a lot on Youtube and Reddit, but it somehow evaded me on here

Bad comments about OpenAI's long-term viability I've seen plenty here. But that's not the same as the people predicting one of the hottest companies right now will somehow suddenly run out of cash all on its own

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giancarlostoroyesterday at 3:10 PM

If nobody invested in OpenAI how long could they keep the lights on? They're not profitable yet, and a lot of the wealth that Sam Altman seems to be making revolves around strange circular deals.

By comparison, Anthropic is projected to break even in 2028. Google's Gemini is already profitable.

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nerdixyesterday at 3:57 PM

I don't think they are going to collapse. But it was only a couple of years ago that many people thought OpenAI had a big (some thought insurmountable) lead in a race to dominate a winner take all markee. Some people did correctly state that OpenAI had no moat in those days so credit there where it's due.

Now it's looking like a competitive blood bath where ever increasing levels of investment is needed just to main market position. Their frontier models are SOTA for 4 weeks before a competitor comes and takes the crown. They are standing on much shakier ground than they were 2 years ago.

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notatoadyesterday at 4:28 PM

the $30b investment from nvidia is instead of a previously-announced $100b investment from nvidia, so it's not like this is an entirely good-news story for OpenAI.

sethops1yesterday at 3:09 PM

How much revenue have they generated? How about profit?

If investors keep throwing obscene money at OpenAI, sure, they can stay afloat forever. Can't argue with that. But if we're talking about a sustainable business, I still don't see it.

captainblandyesterday at 4:41 PM

For Nvidia's part they're just giving money to one of their largest customers. They make money back even if they "lose" the bet

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aleccoyesterday at 3:26 PM

Nobody saw coming the huge demand for coding agents. Not even OpenAI or Anthropic themselves. Those were side projects just a year ago and now dominate token demand. And they keep rising.

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glimsheyesterday at 4:08 PM

You'll always find someone claiming X or Y are close to collapse at any given time. As even a broken clock is right twice a day, eventually one of these predictions will randomly be proven correct. That person will then be elevated to a genius forecaster and rake in cash for a decade or two.

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outside1234yesterday at 3:12 PM

Well, $110B a year doesn't last long if you are losing $40B a quarter.

Also Softbank invested, which is never a great signal.

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emptyfileyesterday at 3:30 PM

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