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upupupandawayyesterday at 3:58 PM5 repliesview on HN

I was in Shanghai recently and while casually testing one of their AI chat bots I typed "What do you think of the situation in Taiwan?".

It started discussing like a Western bot would - "it's complicated, etc. etc." and around 5s it abruptly stopped and regurgitated the same line the CCP uses "... it's an unalienable part of China etc. etc.".

After printing the line, a popup opened and my camera was activated. The app wanted me to submit my information, presumably to decide what to do with me next time I enter China.

1) All the lights and modern buildings cannot hide that China is a creepy authoritarian state underneath.

2) Given the bot started printing the Western consensus first, I bet $10 it was trained by distilling ChatGPT or Gemini.


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titaniumtownyesterday at 8:34 PM

> After printing the line, a popup opened and my camera was activated. The app wanted me to submit my information, presumably to decide what to do with me next time I enter China.

Was this on your personal device? I'm just wondering how it activated your camera. I would love more details!

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3rodentsyesterday at 8:56 PM

If this were true, why didn’t the chatbot immediately recognize that the word “Taiwan” should trigger the response? Detecting the word “Taiwan” has been possible since before most of us were born.

China has more restrictions on what you can say than the U.S. but what you are describing is not reality. Some westerner asking Deepseek about Taiwan is completely uninteresting. Just as the government do not chase people over VPN usage.

China doesn’t try to hide that they are an authoritarian state. They don’t need to. Most people in China are no less happy with their government than westerners are with their governments. Governments reflect culture. And as for foreigners, our view of China is far worse than it actually is, China doesn’t need to hide anything, people who visit China will come away with a more positive view of the country than those who do not visit.

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imwillofficialyesterday at 10:38 PM

This risk is far overstated.

I was talking crap about china from the great wall.

jajuukayesterday at 9:47 PM

I love Hacker News fiction. Wild stuff. haha

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmyesterday at 9:24 PM

Same thing happened to me, except it was a facetime call from Xi.

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