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neverkn0wsb357today at 6:03 AM5 repliesview on HN

I think the person requesting to access the data was doing the right thing and I agree with the judge’s ruling.

The fact that they’re gonna shut it down, implies the scale of indiscriminate nature of data capture and the volume of data being captured.

These cameras are popping up all over the nation and if people realize how much data is being captured and where that data is going (or who it’s being sold to) and how it’s being used by government and private entities they would be appalled.

There’s been exposés about these cameras, everything from AI misidentification of “stolen” (not) vehicles and erroneous arrests and police encounters, to analysis of shopping patterns being sold back to private entities for better ad targeting. It’s wild.


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Gigachadtoday at 6:56 AM

The laws need to be updated. CCTV in public used to be fine because no one was actually watching it unless there was an incident. Now it’s possible to have AI watch every camera and correlate everything everywhere we need new privacy laws to reflect this capability.

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stingraycharlestoday at 11:25 AM

Yeah, it appears they have a lot of things backwards, for example:

> “We were very disappointed,” Franklin said. “That means perpetrators of crime, people who are maybe engaged in domestic abuse or stalkers, they can request footage and that could cause a lot of harm.”

The whole point is that they should have been collecting data on perpetrators of crimes only in the first place, not a massive dragnet.

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cucumber3732842today at 11:14 AM

>The fact that they’re gonna shut it down, implies the scale of indiscriminate nature of data capture and the volume of data being captured.

Or it implies that the .gov, it's agents and those associated with it are not squeaky clean and that any aggrieved party being able to request footage would be bad for the .gov.

close04today at 8:25 AM

> the scale of indiscriminate nature of data capture and the volume of data being captured

It took a lot of naivete, to put it gently, and head-in-sand attitude to believe otherwise. Flock had everything in place to collect a treasure trove of data but they would decide not to do it? Out of principle? Or even if we take the very charitable interpretation that they don't do it today, but also that they'll never cave in to the pressure to do it in the future?