> because you are annoyed about some temporary problems (yes, they are temporary)

What leads you to believe that anything he mentioned is temporary?

I've been running Debian on servers for 20+ years now. And in the last few years I've been running it on my desktop, sort of a toe in the water. Debian hasn't let me down, and I'm very familiar with it.

I was on my way out the door before the Apple Silicon launch. They managed to briefly bring me back in, but the software is only getting worse. It's a shame too, because I do believe Apple has the best hardware.

First, I have no reason to believe these problems are temporary. There are problems MacOS has had for years that have never been addressed, before they added the new problems when forcing Liquid Glass on people.

Just to put cards on the table, the problem Apple has is disillusionment. They've managed to disabuse people of the notion that Apple designs quality software that is useful in their lives.

People who have lost faith in Apple won't regain their faith even if Apple fixes all the Liquid Glass problems in six months. And that is not something that will happen. On top of that, people are anticipating AI features and a touch-optimized interface.

It's why Google Trends shows larger-than-ever numbers of people having iPhone battery issues, performance issues, and searching for how to switch to Android. "Macos to Linux" peaked after Tahoe, at 3x higher than its pre-LG peak, for example.

No, the difference is trajectory and trust.

We all predict the future, consciously or not. We invest our time and effort into a system that we think has a good future.

Tahoe made me lose trust in Apple's software, and see its trajectory as a bad one that I didn't want to invest any more time into.

Who cares what Apple marketers think if you are not using Apple products? The point of switching to Linux is that you no longer have to care whether their corporate behavior ever changes: you just live in the open-source world instead.

I gave up on Apple twelve years ago and I can't imagine ever buying another Mac.

If multiple people stopped buying Macs and complained and that got apple to solve the temporary problems, isn't that hat what people intended to accomplish?

Yeah, I still remember when I flipped from Linux to Mac at home. In my case it was a long time ago when I got a 4k monitor and couldn't scale the display text/icons and so couldn't read shit on it, and setting up a multi-monitor setup with Linux with different display resolutions was completely impossible. It worked in a few buttons with Mac. Digging into the issue on the Linux side there was some developer just yelling into the issue that people couldn't see 4k resolution, so there was no point to buying that hardware and everyone was just making a purchasing mistake with 4k monitors. I'm sure it has been long fixed by now, but that's the social problem which is waiting there. It won't be that issue, but there'll be something else like that...

> because you are annoyed about some temporary problems

I mean, all problems are temporary, time is money etc. etc. And there are signs that suggest that some of these problems (namely freedom to run your own software) are not going to get resolved soon. Is there something deeper in your thought that I missed?

> These kind of posts get a lot of upvotes, but they do nothing to change corporate behavior.

I don't understand, we are on a discussion forum. Of course writing comments here does not influence what Apple does, that's not what HN is for, I think (I hope) that everyone already assumes that. Why do you feel the need to point that out?

Apple has been headed down this road for over a decade. Not sure why you would think any of this was temporary.