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farkanoidtoday at 4:13 AM4 repliesview on HN

Not sure how I feel about this. Motorola seems to be the exclusive provider of encrypted cellular networks and associated devices to the Israeli military [1][2].

I'm under the impression that basebands still require a proprietary/binary blob, basically rendering the security features of the underlying Open Source OS useless, since it sits between the user and outside connectivity.

How can GrapheneOS ensure that there are no hidden backdoors (ie: Pegasus-like spyware, which was created by ex-IDF soldiers via NSO Group), etc, in the baseband?

[1] https://www.whoprofits.org/companies/company/3808

[2] https://www.motorolasolutions.com/newsroom/press-releases/mo...


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spaqintoday at 4:25 AM

In the same way they can(not) do it on Pixel phones - and I would be surprised if Google was not already cooperating with the state actors. You do what you can. Even open source drivers (which are not gonna happen when operating within tightly regulated radio bands) won't help if there's a hardware backdoor.

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627467today at 4:26 AM

Motorola Solutions != motorola mobility

Ill leave you to investigate how != they are

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worldsaviortoday at 7:28 AM

I'd say you're paranoid. Nobody cares about you, and they won't invest billions just so they can see your hot nude pictures. There are much easier ways to get information out of a phone, no need for a backdoor.

If there were ever any backdoor in some phone, it would have been found. No smartphone company is gonna take that chance that someone will find their backdoor, it will literally kill the company.

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DANmodetoday at 5:57 AM

Will Graphene not require Moto to offer an IOMMU like Pixels do?