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orwinyesterday at 8:22 PM1 replyview on HN

Here is my argument:

Prior political choices prevent the US from saying to Iran "Sorry that Israel attacked you, that's unfair, please don't attack our base, we won't fund Israel military anymore, and we remove the embargo".

Hence, since during the previous ceasefire, Iran told the US "If Israel break the ceasefire again, we will attack your ME bases", US was "forced" into preventive strikes against Iran military installations, and into an offensive war, without any preparation.

I'm not a huge fan of this US admin _at all_, but in this very case, the amateurism isn't caused by the childishness and the whininess (is that a word? i mean constant whining and victimization) of the US admin and their overall lack of skills, but by the fact they were forced into it without preparations.

Is that argument more clear? I feel you talked past my argument which is probably my fault since i have trouble expressing myself without thinking for hours beforehand


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watwutyesterday at 9:52 PM

I dont find that believable argument at all. USA in fact can not attack along of Israel. Nothing prevents then from removing embargo, tho that is not relevant.

USA can tell Israel to not attack. Full stop. It can even tell Israel they will give them less support. And dont tell me that Trump administration would be afraid to pressure or even bully other goverment. If USA did not wanted this war, it would not happened.

Third, USA had option of approaching negotiations seriously. It simply did not.

> US was "forced" into preventive strikes against Iran military installations, and into an offensive war, without any preparation.

This is nonsense. It was not preventive attack, it was active first strike attack against opponent that is not much threat right now.

USA was not in defense. It was not forced to attack either.