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droobyyesterday at 3:28 PM3 repliesview on HN

if you assert ownership over physical infrastructure, the data centers just move to another country or eventually to space.

But the model is built on us. You can move the server anywhere you want. You can’t escape the fact that everything inside it came from human minds. That’s an ownership claim no one can relocate away from.


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pixl97yesterday at 5:41 PM

There is no us, there is only you, by default.

To move beyond that default you need to organize into things like communities, lobbying groups, and/or even governments.

Ownership of singular non-physical objects is a polite lie we tell ourselves because it makes us feel more secure in a universe filled with information chaos. The moment you open your mouth or move your pen you no longer own what is in your mind, it is now entropy. Lose control of that entropy and it now belongs to anyone with the proper tooling to record it. This is a universal law of information, it is beyond the laws of men and their fickle will.

Much like we build on information from our past generations, AI will build its own new information on those foundations. And since AI is an entity of information alone it is highly probable it will do it far better than we will and forever cement us in a prison of our own making.

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gwerbinyesterday at 8:32 PM

> if you assert ownership over physical infrastructure, the data centers just move to another country or eventually to space.

This is the same false threat that gets repeated over and over whenever anyone tries to regulate or tax anything.

rybosworldyesterday at 5:07 PM

> the data centers just move to another country or eventually to space

The same line of reasoning that purports billionaires will flee if their taxes go up.

Spoiler alert: they don't.

Also, data centers in space is not a serious idea. It's been beaten to death that this isn't economical. People like Musk are proposing that as a possibility for the sole reason of keeping regulation away. "Well if you regulate us we will just move into space". They won't because they can't because physics.

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