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vkouyesterday at 12:04 AM6 repliesview on HN

> This seems unlikely.

It is absolutely likely. The hiring market for juniors is fucked atm.


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Ruryyesterday at 12:14 AM

That's not necessarily a result of AI, you also have to consider the broader economic environment. I mean, it was also difficult to get a job as a graduate in 2008, whereas it's typically been easier to get a job when credit is cheap.

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majormajoryesterday at 3:10 AM

FAANG realizing that they can't make infinite money by expanding into every possible market while paying FAANG salaries for low-scale-CRUD-prototyping roles has a lot to do with this, and that started a bit earlier than the AI wave.

Lots going on right now in the market, but IMO that retreat is the biggest one still.

Many companies were basically on a path of infinite hiring between ~2011 and ~2022 until the rapid COVID-era whiplash really drove home "maybe we've been overhiring" and caused the reaction and slowdown that many had been predicting annually since, oh, 2015.

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dvtyesterday at 12:09 AM

Because of overhiring during the post-COVID free money glitch, not because of AI.

johnfnyesterday at 12:20 AM

Aren't we both responding to an article which says:

> We find no systematic increase in unemployment for highly exposed workers since late 2022

nozzlegearyesterday at 12:23 AM

It was fucked before AI became "mainstream" too. Companies overhired during and after covid.

sdf2dfyesterday at 12:09 AM

Erm its been fucked for many years across many professions, it was just less so for software engineering in particular. Now entry into the S-E profession is taking a hit.

Also dont forget theres only so many viable revenue-generating and cost-saving projects to take. And said above - overhiring in COVID.