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mrs6969yesterday at 3:59 AM2 repliesview on HN

Literally yes. If you justify harming others out of nowhere by ‘sabotaging your own existence’ then yes.

‘Sabotaging your own existence’ is a magic sentence that can justify everything. Israel can kill children more than any other nation in the world, and justify it by ‘not sabotaging their own existence’

Anyone can do anything with this perspective. This is the exact point gere. Pull yourself back, if you are about to ‘not sabotage your own existence’ by simply killing innocent civilians because you believe a computer algorithm told you in about 15 years they or their children might do something harmful.


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qserayesterday at 5:18 AM

Sure, any one can say anything. But I am not referring to that. I am talking about a case where it is objectively true.

But I think that is a question that anyone would rather not consider.

The issue is that if you don't consider that question, and jump into discussion or actions, in general just have an "outrage", then it would be very hard to take you seriously.

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JumpCrisscrossyesterday at 4:45 AM

> Anyone can do anything with this perspective

Not really. Not unless one is thinking in absolutes, at which point one is by definition an extremist.

The rational dialogue that emerges is the proper size of a military for defensive—but not continuous offensive—purposes. I’d guess, for America, that is half its current size at most. (The wrong answers are zero and $1.4tn.)