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ginkoyesterday at 8:16 PM6 repliesview on HN

Honestly I find the impact of the Columbian exchange on cuisine of the old world overblown. Tomatoes potatoes and corn a sure are great, but you can do without them. Italian cuisine was different but most of the modern elements were in place. I'd say the role of tomatoes in Italian cooking isn't as big as people make it out to be.

On the other hand it's almost impossible to imagine what food was like in the Americas before Columbus. No wheat, no pork/beef/chicken, no dairy, no onions, no cabbage, no oranges/apples/figs, any citrus and much much more.


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hyperpapeyesterday at 9:43 PM

One of the most praised recent restaurants in the United States is based on an attempt to reconstruct pre-Colombian cuisine from the Americas: https://owamni.com/, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/09/19/how-owamni-bec....

jasonwatkinspdxtoday at 1:16 AM

> On the other hand it's almost impossible to imagine what food was like in the Americas before Columbus.

Not at all. Many pre columbian foods remain popular today, like tamales. Corn, beans, squash, fish, nuts, and tropical fruit were all staple foods in pre contact Mesoamerica. Central American islanders were big on grilling fish over coals.

I don't think it was a miserably plain diet by any means.

bee_rideryesterday at 11:49 PM

In that list, I think I’d only really miss apples and dairy (really just cheese) by their own virtue. Pork/beef/meat due to familiarity (which is to say, they had other meat sources, which I’m sure were just a good, if I’d grown up on venison I’m sure it would just taste like cow to me).

Potatoes and corn, losing though would be absolutely tragic. Also avocados.

lava_pidgeonyesterday at 9:10 PM

Depends on the area. German speaking areas and Eastern Europe do use lots of potato. Even the collagial name for German is potato

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mmoossyesterday at 9:28 PM

> no dairy

They couldn't find one mammal from which to obtain milk? It's a pretty obvious thing to try, for obvious reasons.

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jjthebluntyesterday at 10:46 PM

no beef? bison were ubiquitous, though.