Funny though how many are dismissive of trillion-synapses brains that can understand and speak tens of languages, write decent code, discuss history and philosophy, solve math problems...

And then are creeped by 200k neurons that barely find a target when they're told where it is.

You can probably train an ANN with only a few hundred neurons at most to do the same.

The truth is, God really gave 11 commandments.

It's just "Thou shalt not grow a brain in a test tube and force it to play a 1993 shooter" didn't make any sense to Moses and therefore didn't make the editors cut.

It is creepy, I agree.

I saw this article over the weekend and felt similarly: https://theinnermostloop.substack.com/p/the-first-multi-beha...

> Watch the video closely. What you are seeing is not an animation. It is not a reinforcement learning policy mimicking biology. It is a copy of a biological brain, wired neuron-to-neuron from electron microscopy data, running in simulation, making a body move.

And the simulated world they put it in is a sort of purgatory-like environment.

Would it be able to distinguish between violent or not? Would it be suffering or not? What exactly does it get in terms of signals? Does it even, "experience" anything? Is it even an "it"?

Maybe you're a brain in a jar somewhere being forced to live this life you're living.

> Just feels like it's starting to get quite questionable

There's no way the technology to make and modify "life" including cloning humans hasn't been secretly used or attempted at least once ever since it was discovered.

> it's creepy.

It's awesome.

People's ick around bodies, which are machines, have always held us back.

It wasn't until we started cutting them open that modern medicine was developed.

We might have brain uploads already had we not been so averse to sticking brains with electrodes.

I'll go further: had we not been so scared of cloning, we'd probably have cured cancer and every major ailment if we'd begun cloning monoclonal human bodies in labs. Engineered out the antigens and did whole head transplants. You could grow them without consciousness or deencephalize them, rapidly grow them in factories, and have new blood / tissue / organ / body donors for everyone.

New young bodies means no more cancer, no more cardiac or pulmonary age. It's just brain diseases left as the final frontier once we cross that gap. And if we have bodies as computers and labs, we'd probably make quick work on that too.

Too tired to lay out the case / refute, so past discussions:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

How else are they going to train the pilot wetware for the AI robot army?

I mean, it's nowhere close to human intelligence, and it's still not a sentient being, so it cannot be "forced" to do anything, even if we take it at face value.

As for being creepy, the things humans do to other actual sentient beings are exponentially more horrifying and creepy than making them play computer games. If the monkeys that Volkswagen tortured with their exhaust gases were made to play Doom, that would be a much better world. And they are much, much closer to human-level intelligence than this chip.

Ethically speaking, it got "questionable" way long ago; this is not a valid concern for this project imo.

The thing should watch cats.

>But perhaps something getting close to human intelligence

this isn't getting close to human intelligence. They're using about as many cells as a fruit fly has (of course not actually functioning like an animal brain) processing signals to play Doom. The treatment of a single farm chicken is about a few magnitudes more worrying than this.

I'm sorry to tell you that you're made out of human cells and I don't think you got consent from each brain cell before firing up the old boomer shooters.