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I don't know Apple's endgame for the Fn/Globe key–or if Apple does

50 pointsby tambourine_manyesterday at 4:53 PM11 commentsview on HN

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rgoultertoday at 1:34 AM

While this is a problem for the default user experience, I think if you're an enthusiast there's less of a problem because you can get an external keyboard you like.

Laptop keyboards will always be disliked by someone: the standard keyboard layout is awful, and dealing with this either involves trying to stick to the conventional design (wherein different people will dislike different changes); whereas a good keyboard design is going to be so far from the standard keyboard that laptops aren't going to do that.

(People will quibble about where to put the arrow keys or however many modifier keys there are or that caps lock is badly placed.. but the most glaring issue is that the spacebar doesn't need to be over 6x the size of other keys).

It's a problem if the OS is inconsistent/unclear about what scan codes are required to do things.

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_doctor_lovetoday at 12:09 AM

The button is now the shortcut for voice dictation.

At the moment, apps like Wisprflow or OpenWhispr are using it as their main shortcut, and I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before Apple integrates it as the default for Siri.

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mrkpdltoday at 1:06 AM

Add to this that the Apple IIe had two keys with the Apple logo on them. One just an outline ‘open Apple’ and one a silhouette ‘closed Apple’. These two keys did different things to each other!

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koinedadtoday at 1:28 AM

Yeah my least favorite key since the globe was added. Randomly opens emoji keyboard on me

MFHavatoday at 12:16 AM

> Most crucially, both keyboards introduced a new tenant: Control (⌃). This was modifier key number four, and to this day, I don’t fully understand why ⌘ wasn’t repurposed here

Because then we would have ended up with the same mess that is Windows (and Linux for that matter) when it comes to ^C being ambiguous...

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perryizgr8today at 1:39 AM

Keyboard shortcuts are truly a mess on mac os. Windows does it much better and with more consistency. That results in third party apps also having sensible shortcuts. Example: Ctrl+G is widely used in code editors for "Goto line". On Windows it makes perfect sense to use because Ctrl+ shortcuts are used for text editing everywhere. But on macos it is out of place, because there Cmd+ is the standard for text editing. But Cmd+G is used for some obscure find feature. So editors fall back to Ctrl+G which is out of place.

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