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dennis_jeeves2today at 3:01 PM0 repliesview on HN

Perhaps even worse. I'm over simplifying: but at least some childless people know it's a lot of work and sacrifice to be a good parent, hence they opted out. On the other hand for the clueless ones, they thought of a child as something akin to having a toy - all fun and no work, only to realizes later that they are dealing with a full fledged individual.