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auggierosetoday at 11:36 AM4 repliesview on HN

If you are employed, by definition you have outsourced the worries about the return on the value you create to your employer.


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dchftcstoday at 12:17 PM

This. First, the employer has to worry about the returns from which they draw some money to pay you. And for you to even get paid for doing a job, the company has to fear that you won't do it if you don't get paid - in most cases, it's not from the good of heart, but an implicit or explicit threat made by you or on your behalf by other people.

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data-ottawatoday at 1:07 PM

This is not necessarily true.

I work on a product, I see sales generated by my work. By me specializing in my role and sales specializing their role we both benefit. Is that outsourcing the the worries? I don’t know, but when we get a client email it’s both product and sales collaborating that resolves it.

There are also co-ops, worker owned companies, etc.

DangitBobbytoday at 1:19 PM

And they, in turn, have outsourced the worries of the value they need you to create onto you!

sfn42today at 12:50 PM

Not really sure what your point is. The employer is worried about getting good return on their investment in me, I am worried about getting good return on the time I'm investing in the company.

So my interest is that they recognize that I provide value, and pay me accordingly. It's possible that they recognize my value but choose to underpay.

I want them to pay me as much as possible, they want to pay me as little as possible. We reach a compromise, and if a different company offers a better deal I take it. That's their incentive to pay me a competitive salary. Doesn't matter what I say or how well I play office politics, they are most likely going to try to get a bargain and I am most likely going to leave for a better deal because there's always someone willing to pay more.