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JumpCrisscrossyesterday at 1:14 PM1 replyview on HN

> it was by the layers upon layers of interconnected unregulated derivatives valued at a few orders of magnitude above the underlying subprime mortgages given to anyone with a pulse

It was interconnected derivatives and structured products linked to banks that caused a liquidity crisis in the former to cause a crisis of confidence in the latter.

Meanwhile: "In the letter, Morgan Stanley said the fund wasn’t designed to offer full liquidity because of the nature of its investments, and that credit fundamentals across the underlying portfolio have been broadly stable. The bank's shares fell 2% in premarket trading Thursday" [1].

[1] https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-sp-5...


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kryogen1cyesterday at 1:45 PM

> liquidity crisis in the former to cause a crisis of confidence in the latter

Wait what? Your thesis is the GFC was caused by a liquidity crunch/bank run? Isn't that... not true?

Isn't the proximal to distal chain of events government encouraged subprime loans -> inaacurately valued MBS -> exponential, unregulated derivative instruments -> leveraged contagion. What does market confidence have to do with any of that?

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